He was the Reds shortstop before Larkin took over, played with them for 19 years from 1970-1988.His numbers are strikingly similiar to those of Larkin’s.So, how come he never made it?
David Concepci??n
Shortstop
Born: June 17, 1948 (1948-06-17) (age 63)
Ocumare de la Costa, Venezuela
Batted: Right Threw: Right
MLB debut
April 6, 1970 for the Cincinnati Reds
Last MLB appearance
September 15, 1988 for the Cincinnati Reds
Career statistics
Batting average .267
Hits 2,326
Home runs 101
Runs batted in 950
Teams
Cincinnati Reds (1970?C1988)
Career highlights and awards
9?? All-Star selection (1973, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982)
2?? World Series champion (1975, 1976)
5?? Gold Glove Award winner (1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1979)
2?? Silver Slugger Award winner (1981, 1982)
1982 MLB All-Star Game MVP
Cincinnati Reds #13 retired
Here’s my review of Concepcion’s candidacy from the 2011 Expansion Era ballot (slightly edited for clean-up).
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Previous Hall consideration
BBWAA voting: 15 ballots, peaking at 16.9%.
VC voting: ballot rookie.
Primary position: shortstop.
Playing career: 19 seasons, 1970-88 — all with the Cincinnati Reds.
Standout season: 1978 — 170 hits, 6 HR, 33 doubles (career high), .301/.357/.405, 114 OPS+, 82 RC.
Other noteworthy seasons: 1974, 1976, 1981. Hitting was never Concepcion’s forte, however.
Honoraria and statistical crowns: nine All-Star selections (five starts), 1982 All-Star Game MVP, five NL Gold Gloves for Shortstop, two NL Silver Sluggers for Shortstop, member (and a valuable one) of the legendary 1970s Big Red Machine, which won two World Series championships (1975-76), two other NL pennants (1970, ’72), and two other NL West titles (1973, when Concepc??on was injured, and the final blaze of glory in 1979). Jersey #13 retired by the Reds.
Yet another sterling piece of the Big Red Machine, Concepcion was the sort of up-the-middle player that a championship team needs — excellent defense, adequate offense. And, on those Reds teams of the 1970s, he didn’t have to hit any better than he did. The point, Concepcion isn’t being considered because of his bat. Defense-heavy candidates, I think, need a component of legend to their story in order to win the Hall plaque. Olde tymers could have that, because that’s all that remains of their defensive prowess, what tales were told from the keyboards. Modern era players are subject to recorded, high definition analysis from every angle, so legends don’t happen today unless truly merited. Concepcion’s era falls in the middle — he was seen on TV a lot, and often, seeing denies believing. Metaphors and hyperbole crash against visual witness. No, we don’t have a lot of film of Concepcion doing his stuff, but if there was legend to be found, it would still be standing out today, even amongst the tempest of talent that was the Big Red Machine. He was very good, but not Hall class. I didn’t support him before and I am not convinced to change that today.
Perhaps his .267 career batting average and lack of power have something to do with it? He was a good defender, based on his 5 gold gloves, but a lack luster bat is probably the reason. He would need the defense of Ozzie Smith to make the Hall.
5 GGs and(9 all star selections)!
I watched Reds in the 70s, to me he was overshadowed by Bench,Rose,Morgan,Foster and Perez.
There r so many players that oughta be in.
Because,comparing the most IMPORTANT numbers vs. Larkin, Concepcion didn’t get 75% of the votes.
bench morgan perez are already in and had more power than dc
Concepion is not a HOF’er, Larkin was considerably better.
he’s not
Here is Barry Larkin career numbers- .295 Avg. 198 HR 960 RBI
Here is Bernie Williams career numbers- .297 Avg. 287 HR 1257 RBI (Better All Around Numbers!)
Both had around the same number of At Bats Larkin 7937 at bats vs Williams 7869 at bats so if Bernie is a 4 time World Series champ and holds a lot of postseason records then why did he get such a low amount of votes? Is it a Yankee Bias? Based on positions? SS vs CF, What do you think? Let’s get some Baseball Talk going in January!
Bernie’s accolades 5?? All-Star (1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001)
4?? World Series champion (1996, 1998, 1999, 2000)
4?? Gold Glove Award winner (1997, 1998, 1999, 2000)
Silver Slugger Award winner (2002)
1996 ALCS MVP
Barry’s accolades 12?? All-Star (1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2004)
World Series champion (1990)
3?? Gold Glove Award winner (1994, 1995, 1996)
9?? Silver Slugger Award winner (1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999)
1995 NL MVP
Concepcion is easily one of the 5 most underrated players of his era…great question.
Unfortunately he is part of the pre-ESPN era and hasn’t had every play posted on "the web" and on web gems with repeats 10 times per day.Therefore, he hasn’t been marketed as a HOF’er by the ENTERTAINMENT and sports network.
We oldtimers believe the HOF has been watered down in this MLB Network/ESPN era when every day’s highlights are flashed at us on a 24/7 basis.Guys like Ron Santo, Bill Mazeroski, et al deserve to be there but suffered from a major lack of overexposure….if you didn’t see the play at the ballpark then you didn’t see the play…from 1900 – 1980.
Not sure that Concepcion is an absolute HOF’er but he’s as deserving as Larkin….seen ‘em both play and Concepcion was much better in the field and didn’t bat 3rd because of the team’s lineup…Larkin woulda’ batted 8th and thus not had the stats he does.
Not a huge Reds fan….but always respected their teams.Still think the early 60′s Pirates and Reds uniforms the best ever.
Honestly believe the Bench/Morgan/Concepcion/Geronimo middle of the field the all-time best defensive group in the history of the game.
Check this out, sports fan:
Concepcion hit .267/.322/.357, with an OPS+ of 88- meaning he was 12% below average, basically.
Barry Larkin hit .295/.371/.444, with an OPS+ of 116- meaning he was 16% ABOVE average, basically.
And remember, OPS+ ADJUSTS for period and park.
Larkin hit at a MUCH BETTER rate than Concepcion did.
And Larkin scored 1329 runs, 400 more than Concepcion did.
Larkin had more doubles, more home runs, more stolen bases (while being caught stealing less times than Concepcion did), more RBI, more hits (all of this in 300 FEWER GAMES), had 300 more total bases, walked more, ground into fewer double plays, struck out less, had TWELVE All-Star selections in just as many seasons (19), won NINE silver sluggers (more than ANYONE but Bonds and Piazza), won three Gold Gloves ‘while competing with Ozzie Smith for half of his career’… If you think Concepcion is ‘better,’ you don’t know how to use statistics.